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KHOODEELAAR! contextual replay of our diagnosis of Crossrail-supporting MP Susan Kramer [Lib Dem]

MP Susan Kramer: 'Kingston's Crossrail contributors should be recompensed'
7:20am Wednesday 5th August 2009
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By David Lindsell »

Nearly 700 businesses in Kingston who are likely to be asked to pay for Crossrail should be repaid with more investment in transport locally, an MP has said.

Firms from across London will be asked to pay from their business rates from next April, to pay for the high-speed east to west route which will link Heathrow with the City and Canary Wharf.

Kingston companies above a rateable value of £50,000 would be asked to contribute £2.57m in total - 1.4 per cent of the total cost.

Susan Kramer, MP for Richmond Park and north Kingston said: “In return, we must get real investment to solve some of the transport problems we have locally.

“While extensive works are going on at weekends to improve the Tube network, we are seeing very little gain locally.

“The quid pro quo for the support from our area must be more investment to reduce overcrowding, increase train capacity and mitigate the effects of Airtrack on level crossings.”

Last week the Liberal Democrats who control Kingston Council said they were “angered” by the funding proposals, despite a report saying Kingston could reap up to £18.3m from benefits as “better paid” Londoners spend their money in the borough.

In 2004, an official report said the potential cost of the Kingston extension was close to £1bn, effectively ruling out the link.

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Tony from Surbiton, Surbiton says...
11:34am Wed 5 Aug 09

'Last week the Liberal Democrats who control Kingston Council said they were “angered” by the funding proposals, despite a report saying Kingston could reap up to £18.3m from benefits as “better paid” Londoners spend their money in the borough.'

WELL I AM "ANGERED" BY THE LIB DEM FUNDING PROPOSALS - GIVE ME MY COUNCIL TAX BACK!!!


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khoodeelaar!NotoCrossrail, london says...
1:35am Thu 6 Aug 09

Muhammad Haque
1247 Hrs UK
Wednesday
05 August 2009
Dear Louise ,
This is further to our telephone conversation in the past
20 minutes.
Lib Dem MPs Susan Kramer is full of contradictions.
As a publicly claiming economics-conscious career-
carrying person with almost acceptable ‘international’
links, she is being irresponsible with her latest stunt for
Crossrail. ..she has not shown why her so-called quid
pro quo demand is realistic, let alone fundable. I put a
series of costs and priority related questions to her
office in the past hour. There was no evidence from her
office justifying Ms Kramer’s stunt. Nor is there any
sign that she has done any study of the transport needs
of london as a whole. It s additionally irresponsible that
she should repeatedly confuse her constituents by
talking and 'moving' in every direction about transport.
Crossrail is wasteful, diversionary scam. There is no
need for it. What the people of London need is an
improved standard of hardware and manners by
transport personnel...and accountable, honest set of MPs
and local and regional political decision makers. Not
another debts-causing scam...Susan Kramer should
support the call for the scrapping of Crossrail. Not add
to the list of subsidiary wasteful indulgences to fund the
main scam..

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Fred1, Surbiton says...
10:32am Thu 6 Aug 09

Thanks for that khoodeelar, I don't think there's any danger of anyone believing anything that an MP says, though. At least not unless they show that it's thoroughly well-researched, which MP's rarely if ever do.

I'm not quite convinced that "improved standard" of hardware and transport staff manners is one of the things that the people of London needs - after all, how much would this cost?

Accountable and honest MPs would be nice, though, but where would you get them from? I'm not sure that such a being exists. Personally I think that elections and "democracy" is nothing but a facade.

If you want something done, you can't rely on the government to do it; no, you've got to do it yourself. That's the way it is, and no posturing about how our so-called "democracy" is supposedly better than the system they have in Iran or the People's Republic of China is going to make the slightest bit of difference to that.

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khoodeelaar!NotoCrossrail, london says...
4:21pm Thu 6 Aug 09

Thanks for your comments, Fred. The KHOODEELAAR! Campaign is against Crossrail for the obvious reason that it is uneconomic. We are also against Crossrail because the scam has been blatantly and quite corruptly pushed through the UK Parliament by the Executive defying the authority of Parliament. Or at least by defying the democratic authority that ought to have been asserted by the ordinary members of Parliament.
KHOODEELAAR! has sought in the past nearly six years since we began the campaign against the Crossrail scam, to tell the two Houses of parliament, we lodged formal objections to the ‘Crossrail Bill Select Committee’ in the House of Lords and before that, a number of our affiliated groups, including the Spitalfields Small Business Association plus several thousand local traders, residents and tenants from across the East End of London signed our communications and formal letters of objections via a listed number of objectors. We wanted Parliament to hear the evidence that Crossrail was not only NOT wanted by the people of the East End or by the people across London but that there was no economic let alone environmental justification for the scam.. Neither House of the UK ‘Parliament’ would allow our evidence to be put to them! Besides, the House of Commons version of the ‘Select Committee’, as chaired by Alan Meale MP , stopped one MP from raising questions about a Crossrail Whitechapel station. That station ‘scheme’ was a direct bribe made to appease and recruit the controlling clique on the local Tower Hamlets Council fore the purpose of the Big Business scam. The reason, as given by Alan Meale –if it can be treated as reason – was that on 19 July 2005 the House of Commons had barred any real examination of the Crossrail scam to be done by the ‘Select Committee’. So what was the point of the Select Committee? The public did not know in June 2006 what they came to know in June 2009, three years later. That the Houses of ‘Parliament’ have been reduced to Houses of Stooges and touts. There is no evidence of any democratic, independent. Objective and rigorous and consistent challenge on any issue that matters to the public in this country by either Houses to the Executive. This is far worse than anything has been associated with Guy Fawkes and his over-recited plans to physically do away with the Palace now worthy of being called Ghostsminster. Any examination of the Crossrail ‘negotiations’ along the original stated route will confirm the pattern of corruption as the key feature of the process. That so much of the Crossrail scam peddling is done by MPs and peers and not by any recognised ordinary public more than proves the diagnosis that it has been a ploy by unaccountable forces that are bent on looting £Billions of UK public money. Khoodeelaar! has been seeking to draw attention to the one thing the ordinary people still can do in this country. SAY NO. It will save £Billions if more people start to say No like we have been saying. It will be most prudent to say No now than after the ‘horse has bolted’. Unlike Gordon Brown, we remain ordinarily committed to the virtue of prudence in public finance and public decision-making. Despite the hype, neither the Conservatives nor the Lib Dems as the two numerically major parties of Opposition have done its work of holding the Executive to account at all on this.
Thank you.
Muhammad Haque
Organiser
Khoodeelaar! No to Crossrail scam
1615 Hrs
London
Thursday 06 August 2009

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